SuccessFULL With ADHD

How ADHD Social Media Phenomenon, Eugene Yao Cracks the Code for Success With ADHD

• Brooke Schnittman MA, PCC, BCC • Season 1 • Episode 86

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In this episode, I sit down with the incredible Eugene Yao, the force behind ADHD Founder on Instagram, where his content resonates with millions, helping people feel seen and understood. Eugene shares his journey of self-discovery, from his ADHD diagnosis to building a million-strong following in just six months. We delve into his transformation from chasing external rewards like money and status to creating purpose-driven content and meaningful work.

Eugene opens up about his personal growth, his unique path to finding fulfillment, and how he’s using his ADHD superpowers to inspire others. We also talk about his latest venture—an accountability buddy app aimed at fostering meaningful connections and helping users stay productive. Whether you're an entrepreneur, content creator, or someone navigating life with ADHD, this episode is packed with insights to spark motivation and self-reflection.

Eugene Yao is the Co-Founder of Huddle and former CEO of eVouch, a VC-backed marketing tool that served over 1,500 brands. After stepping down in April 2023, Eugene shifted his focus to mental health advocacy following his ADHD diagnosis. Passionate about educating others, he launched an Instagram channel that grew from 0 to 500k followers in just four months, reaching over 50 million unique accounts. His goal is to inspire and inform through engaging content, aiming to hit 1 million followers by the end of 2024.

 

Episode Highlights:
[3:18] - Eugene’s ADHD diagnosis journey and why finding meaningful work matters.
[7:07] - The transformative power of a "dopamine detox" and reconnecting with core values.
[13:55] - The rise of ADHD Founder: crafting relatable and original content.
[19:53] - The reality of content creation and how Eugene balances mission with financial needs.
[26:49] - A sneak peek into Eugene’s upcoming accountability buddy app.
[32:12] - Why growth and progress are essential for ADHD brains.
[35:29] - Eugene’s advice on moving from pleasure-driven habits to purpose-driven fulfillment.

 

Connect with Eugene Yao:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/adhdfounder/?hl=en#
Linked In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eugene-yao-nz/

 

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Eugene Yao:

Accomplishment and progress is also dopamine, and our brain lacks it, so we're constantly trying to find it. Now it makes sense, like if growth is attached to progress, and if I see numbers going up, or if I see myself improving, that gives me the dopamine hit that I need to keep going,

Brooke Schnittman:

welcome to successful with ADHD. I'm Brooke Schmidt, let's get started. Hey everyone, welcome back to another episode of successful with ADHD today. I have the big and powerful Eugene Yao. You likely know him from ADHD founder on Instagram, where he creates videos to make people feel less weird and alone. He also you probably don't know this, founded three startups and recently turned into a content creator. So he you know him on ADHD, found her, but he went to from zero to 1 million followers on Instagram in six months. Warm Welcome, Eugene.

Eugene Yao:

Thank you for having me absolutely, absolutely,

Brooke Schnittman:

and it's really a pleasure, because I had started following your content when you were less than 100,000 and I remember you celebrating that, and like just quickly it doubled, tripled, quadrupled, because the content that you shared was so original. It wasn't just taking other people's content and repurposing it. You literally made a unique story about ADHD, and it was relatable. And it's, it's, it's fun, it's really fun. So it's a pleasure to have you here. And absolutely so talk to me. You've recently found out you had ADHD, right?

Eugene Yao:

Oh yeah, actually, yeah, pretty, pretty recent. So this was a August last year, but before then, it's so I left my startup in May last year. I was doing a B to B E commerce startup, and I didn't feel like it was meaningful, because it was like, Hey, I'm helping other businesses, businesses make more money. So basically I'm like, No, I can't do this for the next 10 years. I left it, I stepped down, sold my equity, had a bit of cash so that I I went from New Zealand, where I'm from, to us in May. Then I was like, hey, what problems can I solve? I want to solve something meaningful. And then there was one thing that I knew that was, like, really problematic for me, is I struggle to focus at work. And I'm like, I'm sure a lot of people can't focus at work as well. So in May, I started digging in. I'm like, I did a lot of research, and guess what came up? ADHD. ADHD, so because of ADHD, I'm like, Hey, let's actually get myself tested. So in New Zealand, I phoned everywhere and wait time for it was about six months. So I was like, No, I can't do that. I can't six

Brooke Schnittman:

months. Yeah, I need to know now, yes.

Eugene Yao:

And I basically called some us. Was that? What do you call it? Us? Physio, no. Psychiatrists, yeah. And they're like, Yep, I can do next week, yeah. So basically I but you have to be in the States. I flew early August or Middle East, and then I got diagnosed with combined type. ADHD,

Brooke Schnittman:

yeah, I was going to ask how you could do that inter country in the US, but that makes sense. You have to fly to the US to get the diagnosis. That makes a lot of sense. So, ADHD, combined type, right? You felt you weren't really motivated and lacked a purpose in working for other companies. You wanted to start something where you felt it could be relatable for what you were going through and people out there that were experiencing

Eugene Yao:

Yeah. So I really never worked for other people. I think I didn't know I had ADHD, but I just knew that I couldn't work for other people. So after, straight after college, I did my own startup, and I was on my third startup, and that's where I'm like, hey, that's the B to B E commerce. I'm like, It's not meaningful. So I left it so questioning that we were, no, that's

Brooke Schnittman:

okay, that's okay. No, you just answered it. So you were doing this work that wasn't for other people. It was a startup. So you do have the investors that you have to prove yourself to. But it wasn't meaningful. It

Eugene Yao:

wasn't meaningful. I think I'm driven by impact. Well, I used to be driven by, like, status power and money. What that was like, what was going but realize once you have a little bit of that. I didn't get far with my startup, but I just got a taste of, like, what status power means, and it was just pleasure. It was just short term. You get it. You feel good for a day. Your ego gets boosted, and then tomorrow is another day. So then what's the meaning of life? If I have to keep chasing that pleasure for one day of happiness and five days of pain or six days of pain, so I'm like, Okay, I need to do something meaningful. I want to wake up every morning knowing that I'm making a difference. So that's why I'm like, Okay, I can't do this anymore.

Brooke Schnittman:

I'm so happy that you said that, because I think, and I know that lots of people on social media who are seven figure business owners, eight figure business owners are saying, you know, follow my path, and you can become rich quick, right? And it is so ego driven. And you are proof that once you get there, if you're not doing something, that you can put your head on a pillow at night that serves you, that gives purpose and impact to you and the world. Then you're going to get there, and then you're going to be like, Okay, what's next? Right? All that hard work for what I'm

Eugene Yao:

a type of person. It's not like formal, follow my path and you'll get millions of dollars. I'm like, follow my path, and you'll reach fulfillment and happiness, and I have, like, a path to get there. So I like, yeah, that's like, basically what I want to help other people with. Not like, how do you make more money? But how do you be more fulfilled inside?

Brooke Schnittman:

I love that. Okay, so you get your diagnosis, you found fulfillment, you gave purpose to the community. So tell me about this path that you're talking about.

Eugene Yao:

Before I left my startup, the one that I didn't find meaningful, I had to really find myself. So that was step one. How it happened. It was I was doing the B to B startup, and my mentor, he asked me, Why are you doing the startup? And then I like, dug in. I dug in. I'm like, Hey, why am I doing this style? And the conclusion came to money, status and power. It means like, Oh, look. It's an ego boost. It feels good. I can make money. I look good. But then it felt so empty. It felt really empty. So to discover myself and what who I am home. I went camping in New Zealand. I went camping by myself. My co founder basically dropped me off in a forest, and then I built my tent. There was no one around. There's no signal. It was about two hours walk from the closest signal. And then I just bought a few books. And then, basically, what I call it is the ultimate dopamine detox, yeah, so I there was no shower as well. So I showered by the stream every day, which is really helpful, because it's cold. It's a cold stream. It stimulates your brain. It gives you, yeah, basically. So went there with the intention of staying for one month. So I had, like, baked beans every day and but then I it took probably, like 10 days to realize I look back on my path, path past, yeah, look back on my past. And I realize I don't like money, I don't like status, I don't like these things, and what I like is I'm I like, I'm a compassionate person, I'm adventurous and I'm growth orientated. So growth startups is always a thing, because I love growing. I love seeing myself like, yeah, love seeing myself growing. The second one is adventure. Adventures, like, I like taking big risks. I think adventure is really tied to ADHD. At that time, I didn't know I had ADHD, but, like, adventure was a huge one. And then compassion, which is like the feeling of me doing something good for the world, that feeling lingers in me for a long time. So those three are the core values. And I'm like, Okay, how do I live a more meaningful life? Is I optimize for these three values? So yeah, when I went from camping, I went back to New Zealand, I went back to my home, that's when I was like, Okay, I need to leave my startup. And I think things started to change. From there, my connections, my meaningful connections, got better. Like, I know who I need to talk to. I dropped a lot of friends, probably, like 90% of my friends I had to like, because, like, the old Eugene was a little bit toxic. I would say, not, not, not who I wanted to be. It's because how society is. Crafted, you have to put on a mask and you have to blend it. So that wasn't so that's number one, changing my friends, and then I started sleeping better. That's another one. Started exercising. I've actually been doing cold showers for the last three years. So that was, like, a very huge point. I've also been meditating for three years, and that really, really helps drinking a lot of water. So I think to answer your question is like, basically, you do everything that your old ancestors are doing, from like 1000s or like your hunter gatherer blood. And if you do all of those things, you will feel fulfilled and happy. And hunter gatherers, they basically have a community where you're serving that community. You're going outside to hunt for meat or hunt or gather for food, and you go back and you give it back to your community, and you feel great. It's not like the hunter gatherer. You go out to earn money, and you eat it all, and you share it, and you eat it all, and you get the dopamine that you need, and you're just so happy because you found the food. So like, these are the simple things that society is missing. Like I see so many things that I'm like, yep, if you, if we walk this route, it's going to be very bad. But, you know, capitalism, so,

Brooke Schnittman:

yeah, yeah, no, well, I think it's, I think you shared a lot of important things to think about, because we are built in a neurotypical world. So society tells us, if you work hard, you will do well, right? So, but it doesn't say why you should work hard in what you're working in. So I think for you, the key was you found your core values. You found your intrinsic motivation, and once you discovered your purpose, then you were able to calm your central nervous system by doing the cold plunge, by meditating, by drinking lots of water, by drinking calming tea, by being with people who lift you up rather than bring you down. So you found your people, you calmed your nervous system, and you found something that's interesting. And ADHD is an interest based nervous system, so if you're interested in something, but you also have intrinsic motivation for that interest, you're sustainable for a lot longer than if you didn't have that intrinsic motivation, but it was just extrinsic motivation, because that's what society told you

Eugene Yao:

you should do. That's 100% um, that's one thing that I didn't mention, is that once you have a purpose, the pain makes sense, like the the cold shower, the exercise, the changing frame group, the harder stuff start to make sense. But if you don't have a purpose, like, what's the point of doing these things? You know you can just chase pleasure, because pleasure is the next best thing. But if you have a purpose, you're like, Okay, doing these things will better my health, better my mind, better this to reach that goal. And it feels, yeah, intrinsic motivation.

Brooke Schnittman:

And I think that also like you could have a purpose, but you could also forget about your hierarchy of needs, which is the you know, the cold, the dopamine exposure, the being around people that lift you up, the exercise, the movement, the water, all those things so you were able to find the the activation, to do those things and create boundaries in your day, to do those things as well, because you know how important they are.

Unknown:

Yes,

Brooke Schnittman:

that's awesome. That's awesome. So with all that being said, you also built an Instagram account in six months to 1 million people, and you basically have no stories you don't post every day. No, tell me about that. Like I know the value in each of your posts, but how did you do it? I'm sure there's lots of people listening right now, who are looking up to you? Saying, I know him. He's the guy in the colorful sweatshirt. Usually,

Eugene Yao:

yes, usually. So in my university days or college days, I was in filming, so I did a bit of acting. I went back to China, where I'm from, to do four different TV dramas. And also I did the theater. I did one or two movies, yep, and then that gave me, like, a little bit of acting skills. And with acting skills, it comes very. Handy into content creation. So I think I had a bit of background into that, and I'm less well. I was hugely camera shy when I was acting, because there's a lot of people like watching me, like, Hey, you got to get this right. You got to get this right. So huge performance anxiety. But now, because no one's around me, I'm filming by myself. I just do 10 different takes. I just do it until I feel like it's good. So it makes a lot easier to like craft something. And also, because of my ADHD brain, I'm really good at pattern recognition, so I'm pretty sure not, not even in my niche. I'm one of the fastest Instagram content creators that grew from zero to one mil in less than six months. So ever, yeah, yeah. I have not seen anyone come close to that. So I don't want to give myself a title. So Instagram, I love that title. I think the reason why I grew really fast is I looked at what's going on in the on Instagram and why people are going viral, and then I can kind of spot the difference and how they edit their content, and what type of comedy is it. So I basically looked around. I'm like, Hey, this is why I went viral. Let's try this format. Let's try that format. And with the core goal of making people with well, my mission is to make people with ADHD feel seen, feel less lonely and less weird about their symptom symptoms. Now that's a whole nother story that's like related to my childhood, and I know that if I make people feel like that, they'll be less stressed, less depressed, and they'll feel more accepted in the society. So with that call goal, I'm like, Okay, what type of commit comedic skits can I do? Because people with ADHD, they love fast funny stuff, or else they're just going to lose attention. So how do I combine those things and make it still make it within my mission? So that's basically what I did. And I'm like, Okay, I'll make it funny and at the same time, make them feel seen. So I replicated, like, I tried multiple different skits, and one of them started working, and I doubled down on that one until it stopped working. Yeah. So, so it was like December last year, that's when I started no followers, and then January, I got, like, when it hit January, I got like 10k end of January, I got like 50k and then February, I got 150k and then march was the one that blew up. I got like 400k I'm like, what is happening? The interesting thing is, just for the people that out there 10k followers versus one mil follows. For me, I think I was happy on 10, because now that I'm on one mil, I'm looking at my view count. So the ego is kicking in. So you people might think that, hey, wow, he's at one more. Oh, I imagine if I was one though I was I'm happy. No, you're not. It doesn't it doesn't make a difference. So I'm gonna lose tracking. And what was I saying?

Brooke Schnittman:

Yeah, you were saying how quickly you grew, but you didn't hyper focus. I took this away from what you were saying. You didn't get obsessed with the the view count at 10k but at one mill, you're obsessed with the view count, yeah,

Eugene Yao:

because I have to keep it up. And yeah, the at 10k i probably until 200k I didn't really care about my views. But now it's like, you have to be in it. If you're not in it, then how do you improve? So like, I'm constantly so there was one, there was two weeks where I didn't look at views and I just created content, and then two weeks later, I look back, they were all low performing. I'm like, Oh, God, I have to look at views. And it does, like, it does take a toll on your mental health. When you know that you're you're putting out work that isn't getting a lot of views, but that's just the nature of content creator creation. But when I was like 10k followers, low views or high views, I'm, I'm I'm fine. But now when I get low views, I think the algorithm is pushing me less, which is also affecting my mission. So also, I became a full time content creator, so I'm making a living out of this. So, like, those

Brooke Schnittman:

products are in one basket, yeah.

Eugene Yao:

So when I had lower followers, money wasn't like a big issue because I wasn't full time, I had something else going on. But now that it's full time, I think there's like a there's like, I'll say like 70% of it is my mission. Now 30% is trying to pay rent, so it's like a little bit of balancing both.

Brooke Schnittman:

Yeah, thank you for being so honest about it. I mean, when you were first talking, I was like, okay, yeah, you followed your purpose. You've had a mission. You had metacognition to know when to stop doing something and start doing something else, and it's so real, like what you're sharing with the one mill, and now you're hyper obsessed with the view count, because that's directly tied into you paying your rent or not. And I know that you are going to innovate out of this. I know you will thank you, yeah, and thank you for just being so raw and honest. Again, people think that once they make it whatever that is, they're going to be great, right? But you literally threw everything into this because it was working, but because you've shifted in the past, I know you're going to shift again. So because we've had some conversations prior to this, do you want to share maybe some things that you're up to, to make some money and to continue to provide purpose? Yes, so

Eugene Yao:

my whole so one strength that I found is that I'm great at creating content. I'm good at telling a story, so I know that I'm going to do content for the rest of my life. Why am I going to do content? Is because it actually impacts people and how I see society going is AI is coming in. But what is AI good at? AI is good at telling feeding you the right things at the right time? The future will be aI algorithm for Tiktok Instagram. They will give you exactly a lot of dopamine, like everything, pretty faces, pretty everything, pretty stories. The best story is crafted for Brooke. So in that world, even Netflix can craft its own AI movie. In that world, there's so much pleasure going around. So there's so much dopamine going around, and once you get a lot of dopamine into your system, you have no motivation to do anything else. Why go out with friends? Why go exercise? Why do these things that the hunter gatherer times do, like in the hunt together in times, once you hunt down the meat and eat the meat, that's your dopamine fix. Now we're getting it. So that's a sort of society that I see, and I can very clearly see it because of how capitalism is. So you can see that at Tiktok. You can see that on YouTube, even in LinkedIn right now, is doing shorts like the reels. So I can see LinkedIn in a few maybe, like one or two years, it's just going to be a bunch of videos. So if we're going into that society where it's consistently stimulating our dopamine system, then how do we actually combat that. So I'm actually building a startup right now, and the startup is basically a accountability partner app. So what we do is we match you up with another accountability accountability buddy who also struggles with the same task that you're trying to do. So once you have a lot of dope, once your dopamine is depleted because of AI's algorithm, you don't want to clean, you don't want to go out for a walk, you don't want to go to the gym. So what my accountability buddy app does, and I have two lovely co founders that is doing it with me, matches you up with a person, and you keep each other accountable. So it's kind of like body doubling. So if you're, for example, cleaning, you can either text them and keep each other accountable, or even call them while you're cleaning. So I have my own accountability buddy where it's one on one matching and what happens is I call them every Tuesday at eight, and then it was so amazing. Like, it's usually a half an hour session, but we clean for an hour and a half, so it's like, you're doing things. You're getting things done. My apartment looks beautiful. That's how I keep my apartment clean. And now our bond is so much stronger. I went traveling with him like twice, so it's like so what we're trying to create here is not just accountability partner. We're trying to create meaningful connections. And I think that's what's lacking in the future, is that, especially for guys. Yes, like, It's a lonely world. We don't know how to be vulnerable and even, like, I'm a vulnerable person, but when I can sense the other guy has a little bit of masculine energy, I tend to not open up, because I know it will scare them away. But yeah, so basically, what I'm doing right now is I'm building accountability partner app.

Brooke Schnittman:

I love that. So you're taking someone who has the same need in the body to bowl realm, but you're looking to really make a valuable impact on each other and relationship where you want to do it for the other person. It's meaningful, and it's purposeful because you connect with the person, and

Eugene Yao:

yes, and you grow with each other. And yeah, it can be used for anything like, for example, content creation. I can match you up with a content creator that's wanting to create content, and they'll be like, Hey, have you done your five content this week? Like, hey, what's stopping you so

Brooke Schnittman:

and you can brainstorm together, which is so helpful for people with ADHD, you can talk it out like, Oh, this is what I'm thinking. Can you hold space for me? Yes, it's great. So is it launched, or is it in the process?

Eugene Yao:

Well, it's in the process of launching. We launched a beta, that's the cleaning, and the cleaning went well. So we're not now opening up to, like, exercise and also side hustle, yeah. So we don't know when we're going to launch yet, but will be sometime, maybe next month. We're going to do a soft launch, but it's not going to it's not going to be like two millions or like hundreds of people. We're just going to select like a cohort of people, and then we're going to just slowly expand that way. Awesome.

Brooke Schnittman:

I just came back from an ADHD coach retreat where there were a lot of new ADHD coaches, and it's talking about business building. And I know, like, logically, what I'm about to say makes sense, but when you're so hyper focused and drained and you know, comparing yourself to the stats, it doesn't make sense. But going back to the initial point is, like, if you look at the metrics, which you did with Instagram, you see that the views are going down. You see that you're not able to pay your rent right, or maybe you won't continue to be able to in the way that you thought you would right to pivot, to start something new before the problem gets too big, and I appreciate that about you. It's that metacognition that is not so easy with ADHD, especially when ego is involved. So everyone you're looking at a person who's raw, who's vulnerable, Eugene has over a million followers, and he's telling you, it's okay, it's okay. You can pivot at any time. If you have 2 million it's not gonna necessarily give you tons of money to live on, right? Like you have to continue to look at the stats and innovate and be able to pivot fast.

Eugene Yao:

So, yeah, I'll consider myself like raw and vulnerable. But I actually didn't see that content creation, making money in content creation, is a lot harder than I initially thought. So I wanted to do a startup. So we started doing this, this startup, about like four months ago. Yeah, so it's still going. It's going good and, yeah, we'll be launching it probably next month sometime. So slide into my DMs if you want to get access

Brooke Schnittman:

ADHD founder, Eugene, what would you say is, like the number one thing that you would recommend to people listening who want to be successful in any way, shape or form, with ADHD,

Eugene Yao:

if we're defining success societally, societally, which is, I think more the power money, status, way of success. I don't know if I can give a lot of advice on that, but what I can give advice on is, if you find your purpose, and you find who you are, and you love doing what you're doing, and that is attached to a little bit of monetary value, and you keep doing that, that will compound. And what I like to say is you want to find your ikigai. For those that don't know what ikigai is, is there's. Four different sections. So first section is what you love doing, what you're good at, what you can make money out of, and also what the how, how you can serve the world, so what the world needs. So if you have all those fulfilled, you can kind of put these four sections into what you're doing right now, to give you a quick example is, if you are in a nine to five where it's you are a like a analyst, right? Do you love doing that? If the answer is no, you're not an icky guy. Do you? Are you really good at doing it? If the answer is yes, you got one if, do you? Does it? Does it serve the world? If the company doesn't serve the world, you're just making money. Is not impactful, so you might need to reconsider. Forgot what the fourth one is. Oh, yeah, if you love doing it. Oh, did I already say no, the money? Oh, there, yes, the money. Can it make you money? Is it enough? Like, what I mean by enough is, it's not like you want to be a million dollars because that's attached to ego again, like is enough for you to live a happy life, if it is, that box is checked as well. So if you have all four checked, stay, stay, stay. But if you, if you have all four checked, and you're like, I still want more money, because you gotta really question, why? Like, who are your friends? That are your friends? Like, also, millennials. Is that why you want to be a millionaire? Like, question, why that's that? Was what I would say,

Brooke Schnittman:

Yeah, I love that. And I would also attach the loving, not only to purpose, passion and like, strength, but also like, Is there room for growth. I think with ADHD like you will not love something long term if you can't grow with a company, or you can't grow in your position, or you can't grow as an entrepreneur and be creative, right? Is

Eugene Yao:

that a thing like ADHD and growth? Yes, adventure as my core value is ADHD thing. I didn't think that it is so gross, really? Oh, wow, no damn, my whole personality is just ADHD Damn.

Brooke Schnittman:

Well, think about it. Why do people with ADHD jump from job to job every two to three years? Maybe because the job excitement. Maybe it's because if the job is not the right job for them, but maybe it's also because they don't see an opportunity to grow in it. If you ask an ADHD or why they've stayed in the same role, like a millennial ADHD, I'm not talking like baby boomer, millennial or Gen Z, if you ask them why they've stayed in the same job for 10 years, I guarantee you there's growth there.

Eugene Yao:

I just made the connection. Okay, so accomplishment and progress is also dopamine, and our brain lacks it, so we're constantly trying to find it. Now it makes sense, like, if growth is attached to progress, and if I see numbers going up, or if I see myself improving, that gives me the dopamine hit that I need to keep going. Ah, damn. Okay, so my first value is growth is also ADG things. Second value, adventure, ADHD, okay, compassion, a good beer, because we're empathetic, empathetic. Yes, we have a lot of empaths, the right word. So, yeah, my three values is just ADHD values, yeah. And

Brooke Schnittman:

I would also say that, like, the dopamine huge, right? But that also gives like, by you seeing that you're because we are dopamine deficient, right? So you see that reward. It's euphoric. Dr Hallowell talks about how seeing the reward or having someone say you're doing an amazing job and you value their opinion, right, like that is so euphoric compared to rejection sensitive dysphoria. So we need both. We need someone to say you're doing a good job. Eugene, great job. Pat on the back. And you need to define what a good job is as well and connect to that good job. I love that. Eugene. Thank you so much for coming on successful with ADHD today. Is there anything else besides your accounts that you would like to share today and leave our listeners with

Eugene Yao:

I would say that for those that is optimized on pleasure, like if you optimize on pleasure, you like scrolling these things, you can you can feel when it's pleasure, and you can feel when it's fulfillment. So I like to say that for those of you that are optimizing on pleasure, which is like scrolling Netflix for hours at a day, I feel like if you were to dig inside to find what you truly want to do and find that purpose, those pleasure will slowly go away. And finding purpose is not easy. It's. It takes a lot of time. I'm not saying like you should find it tomorrow. I'm saying to be aware that there is something within that you can actually find who you want to be and why you want to be that, and once you find that purpose, you'll stop just consuming pleasure and that, I would say, is the most life changing thing for your mental health or your life.

Brooke Schnittman:

I love that. Thank you. I agree with everything that you're saying. And I would also add at the end, like, do that reparative work. Guys Like, once you find your purpose, once you calm your nervous system because of all the negative messages we received before the age of 10, the 20,000 negative messages that an ADHD or consumes, there is work to do so the whether it be coaching or counseling like get the work, because we have traumatic stuff that need to be addressed too. Yes. Eugene, how can people find you?

Eugene Yao:

They can find me on ADHD founder. So this at ADHD founder on Instagram, and my emails are also there. So if you want to reach me, that's right there.

Brooke Schnittman:

Awesome. Thank you again. Value your time, and I can't wait to hear what comes from the accountability buddy app that you and the two co founders are creating, and I hope to try it out soon.

Eugene Yao:

I'm so excited to launch it. Thank you so much, Brooke, thank you

Brooke Schnittman:

Absolutely. Thanks for listening to this episode of successful with ADHD. I hope it helps you on your journey, and if you need any additional support for you or a loved one with ADHD, feel free to reach out to us@coachingwithbrooke.com and all social media platforms at coaching with Brooke, and remember, it's Brooke with an E. Thanks again for listening. See you next time you.

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